Safe Guns

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
02/06/2020 at 00:17 • Filed to: None

Ineed a recommendation for a gun safe. I need to store two rifles, two pistols, cash and a couple of treasures in it. I am thinking about something that would mount between two studs in the wall. Any suggestions?

DISCUSSION (32)

bob and john > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 00:42

we used the cheap $100 locker from canadian tire.

if you have cash to store, id actually say to keep that in a separate safe.

wafflesnfalafel > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 00:42

my FIL ordered one from Costco, cast iron unit big enough to handle all his black powder stuff - bolted it into the crawlspace under the house. He’s been happy with it so far.

atfsgeoff > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 01:09

https://www.sturdysafe.com/products/model-2016

This is about the cheapest gun safe I would recommend personally. Built WAY more robustly than just about any big box store RSC.

gettingoldercarguy > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 01:37

Kinja'd!!!

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 01:48

I have this. Seems ok

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Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 02:01

If thats all you have to store (depending on the size of the treasures) you have a lot of options. So the next question is what are your requirements for fire protection, lock construction, and price?

The between the studs ones can be good and pretty cheap. They are hard to get out, but Im not sure how easy the doors are to pop nor how much fire protection they offer.

I have a StackOn locker like COFL, and it was good, til I outgrew it. Next I got a piece of office furniture, its a big metal thing meant to divide cubicles. It has a tall locker portion I used for more long guns , a wider cubic portion I used for handguns, and drawers underneath for accessories. I still have those plus another closet I converted into racks with a locking door, and all of it is in a locked room. At least until I excavate my bunker.

Fuckkinja > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 02:19

The TSC 14 safe doesn’t hold 14 by the way. Please buy larger than what you think you need.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 04:17

If I needed a gun safe, legislation would require it to be bolted to the floor AND scr ewed or bolted to the wall...and I would need a seperate locked and mounted box somewhere else for the bolts and ammunition. This is why I don’t own firearms at the moment.

But I will again.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
02/06/2020 at 08:38

California?

MonkeePuzzle > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 09:16

thats australia for sure

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 09:36

Regrettably, I can’t advise, as we went for a larger format/freestanding safe at my place. Enough firearm odds and ends a small safe wouldn’t have done the job.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
02/06/2020 at 09:44

Yeah even Canada isn’t that restrictive, and here you need a locked box for ammo in a different room, and trigger locks on everything. But it’s perfectly legal to have a non-restricted firearm under your seat in your car so long as it isn’t loaded, no trigger lock

BannedBadBoy > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 11:37

check on the gun forums for people upgrading to bigger safes, I picked up this one for $400 from a guy that had outgrown it.

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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > BannedBadBoy
02/06/2020 at 11:52

That’s a good idea. I’d have to dedicate a space for it, but I could do that. What state do you live in? Did you fasten it down?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick)
02/06/2020 at 12:16

Where in Canada?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gettingoldercarguy
02/06/2020 at 12:16

There’s something to that. Hidden in the shed would be probably more secure than any safe.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 12:19

Thanks for replying. I think I’m going to start looking on Craigslist for people who’ve outgrown theirs. I think a floor-standing model, fireproof, and bolted down, is the way to go. Something that claims to hold about five long arms. Availa bility on the used market will dictate.

The fear I have is the case where someone enters the house and spends time there, perhaps because we are out of town. They take their time, look around for things they want, take a minute to crack a safe. I need something secure enough where they wouldn’t bother.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > bob and john
02/06/2020 at 12:20

Why do you recommend a separate safe for cash?

bob and john > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 12:27

because thats something that you would access a little more frequently then a gun.

And call me paranoid, but i dont like the access to the guns open anymore then it really needs to be. plus its easier to hide a smaller safe.

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 12:28

Firearms ownership (unrestricted) laws are federal here, except for the fact the provincial Chief Firearms Officer has to personally sign off on your PAL request/registration. I’m not sure about provincial requirements for restricted firearms, but those are primarily federally regulated too, and that’s handguns, some weird stuff and some ‘military’ rifles.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
02/06/2020 at 12:46

I’m leaning that way myself. I will start looking on Craigslist.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Fuckkinja
02/06/2020 at 12:47

Right now, at most two longer guns, which would be up from zero longer guns, and hard for me to see adding another anytime soon, if ever.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > wafflesnfalafel
02/06/2020 at 12:47

Does he go below to enter the safe?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > bob and john
02/06/2020 at 12:49

I don’t think that makes you paranoid. I also don’t know what your ar se nal looks like. Mine is very basic: two wheel guns, a Mini-14 and an inexpensive 12-gauge. All are primarily for self defense or Armageddon and not sporting. So I think of them more in a sense of utility.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 12:53

I think that’s a good plan. Make sure you have a sturdy hand-truck and some strong friends , though a 5 long gun safe shouldn’t be too bad.

A few other tips - I f you’re putting it in a basement consider putting it up on bricks or something in case the basement floods. Also put some kind of moisture control in it - you can use something like DampRid or they make some absorbents that are reusable. I had a device that every few months I would take out and plug in the wall overnight and it would heat up and release the moisture and then I’d hang it back in the safe.

Also, you can get a lower fire rating safe and surround it with drywall to boost it’s fire resistance. I’d suggest 5/8 fire rated stuff.

You are thinking on the right lines - no safe is impenetrable, it merely increases the time it takes a thief to get your stuff , which alters the risk vs. reward equation . Typically, t he longer a thief is in your home the more likely they are to get caught, so generally they want to get in and grab high value stuff quickly and get out. One thing you can do is put your safe in an out of the way place where it doesn’t attract attention. I’ve also seen people take big boxes, like refrigerator boxes, or a couple Home Depot moving boxes and tape them together, cut the back out, and slide it around the safe. It’s a clever bit of deception.

As someone else said, consider getting a small firebox for cash/treasure and hiding it elsewhere, that way if someone gets into one safe they aren’t getting the whole jackpot.

gettingoldercarguy > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 13:58

Plus, you have the excuse to dress up like a pirate.

bob and john > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 14:26

between me and my father, we have 13 or 4 rifles and 4 hand guns.

we have like 3 safes in the house lol.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Snuze: Needs another Swede
02/06/2020 at 15:42

Fire thinking is something I hadn’t been doing.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > gettingoldercarguy
02/06/2020 at 15:44

That , I had not considered.

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 20:12

Australia...

And it’s actually not as mad as it sounds. Especially since we really have no need for a firearm as personal protection...

wafflesnfalafel > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
02/06/2020 at 20:22

yep - it’s a tall (completely walkable) crawlspace. He’s got his workshop down there.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media
02/07/2020 at 00:09

I don't think it sounds mad at all. I think Americans are mad when it comes to guns. I own a few very modest ones in case I ever need to arm myself and to have a little fun with every few years. Very modest.